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Philipcassell
I have not seen the research results you cite, and would be grateful if you could point me to them.
I speak only from my own present experience of factory work. My co- workers are quite simply “not xenophobic etc”. There is certainly the occasional humorous comment about “non British” co-workers but it is just that…humorous, not serious and accepted as such…and usually returned in spades. Yes, it is anecdotal but I don’t think that makes it invalid.
The only comments I have heard which have been “meant”, as in seriously held views, were anti homosexuality. The comments were semi humorous about a co- worker (not to his face obviously) but definitely serious…and only from one or two people. Generally no-one cares.
Obviously I haven’t seen the research you cite, but I do wonder if the researchers fully understood the context of the answers given to their questions. Rather like the police “verbals” given in court, context is everything. “Yeh, course I done it” given sarcastically at the time, reads and sounds somewhat differently later, and evidence of what one hopes to find is often quite easily inferred.
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Btw…and off topic but a great article in the Guardian on Monday by Sharon Graham of Unite…it sets out exactly the problem with the present economic situation
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Your post raises a number of points.
Firstly if I have understood your meaning properly, I think you are wrong about the “white working class”. They are not xenophobic, racist, liitle Englanders or proto Fascist. But they certainly are “democratic” in that all parties having stated they would comply with the result of the Referendum many in all parties sought to prevent the result being enacted.
That is why Corbyn almost beat May; he promised to do Brexit. It is also why Johnson beat Corbyn ( who was very much undermined by Starmer with his second referendum stuff).
Secondly they have no problem with free speech…provided they can answer back as they want; in short, yes people may be “offended”…well, tough!
Thirdly, people listen, or not, to Lineker about football, not politics. No-one except the “bubble” cares what Lineker thinks about anything else. Actually most don’t listen to the politicians any more either; they know they lie… blatantly.
I’m also not sure it was the “Right” who made a fuss about Lineker; it was a flailing, losing party leadership with no “vision” either Left or Right, which is going to lose the next General Election badly. They are looking for a hook to hang a campaign on; this one won’t work.
And the BBC is a subscription service, but a compulsory one. I think it should not be compulsory but effectively a “pay for what you want” service as is now common. I would certainly pay for some… very few… things but then I watch very little TV…most of it is rubbish.
A blog I visit ( allegedly libertarian but I’m blocked…I said something they didn’t like…lol) had a great quote “there’s a problem if the TV screen is bigger than the library”…I tend to agree.
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mickc: A considerable body of research exploring why working class men and women voted for Brexit and Boris Johnson discovered high levels of anti-foreigner sentiment. You do not refute this evidence of racism by simply saying it is not there.
As in : “They are not xenophobic, racist, little Englanders …”
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I didn’t mean to imply that the ‘white working class’ (as you call them) really are quite as xenophobic (etc) as they’re painted, but only that Labour have assumed that of them, and so are nervous of coming out as too ‘liberal’ for fear of provoking them. My point was that Lineker may be able to tap into these ‘better’ feelings, more easily than politicians can.
On their ‘democracy’ – well, we must differ there.
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